tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3062233828175782338.post4535999546416137926..comments2024-03-19T03:17:38.736-04:00Comments on Nehru Scholar - The Grist Mill: RIP, Holika!Giribalahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11481010044909052232noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3062233828175782338.post-88866171317608128372013-04-13T08:41:29.412-04:002013-04-13T08:41:29.412-04:00Thank you Rohan! This was a good analysis. Most pe...Thank you Rohan! This was a good analysis. Most people follow the scriptures blindly. Good to see that you think rationally. I also believe that all these stories were made up by our ancestors. Giribalahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11481010044909052232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3062233828175782338.post-74293505822917855842013-04-13T02:13:32.423-04:002013-04-13T02:13:32.423-04:00hey,do ya believe in all these stories and gods.th...hey,do ya believe in all these stories and gods.thats funny to blame and criticise gods.<br /><br />when it comes to religion,religion came into existence only after civilisation and human mind went corrupt.<br /><br />centuries back there was no religion and gods,only civilisation existed.in civilisation humans had flawless wisdom that can solve any issue.with time and centuries gone by,people felt what if human mind goes corrupt,so they found a solution to preserve human state of mind which is flawless with absolute wisdom.the best way to preserve human state of mind for future generations is to give human state of mind a physical form.they built a structure whose parameters are close to nature that makes everyone feel the original human nature.the structure they built was nothing but a temple the first original human state of mind in physical form for future generations.humans were gifted wisdom equal to that of god so that we don't go for his help.in civilisation people believed the reason for absolute wisdom and flawless mind is unknown entity called god.though god is unncessary in human life,they placed a shapeless stone in temple believing god is the reason for their absolute wisdom and flawless mind.<br /><br />as human minds went corrupt ,people distorted concept of god,temple and the original human state of mind which resulted in creation of religions,gods with different names,idols,scriptures,huge temples just to build their selfish glory.the confusion and unanswered questions in today's society is due to distorted state of mind and theories.<br /><br />why do people feel peace when they visit temple,cuz its first human state of mind which people currently don't have.so question is ,did ya inherit civilisation or religion.religion came into existence only after civilisation went corrupt.<br /><br />the reason i wrote about civilisation is to bring clarity in every aspect of life and to find answers with ease.<br /><br />people created gods and to substantiate these gods they created scriptures like bhagavadgita,mahabharat,koran,bible.people created gods for two reasons.one is to keep people god fearing and not to degrade further.2nd is people created gods for selfish interests to exploit ignorant and innocent.<br /><br />each god from each religion represents the human state of mind of that era.for example,SHIVA WAS THE GOD CREATED BY FIRST HUMAN STATE OF MIND WHICH WAS FLAWLESS.SO WE FIND SHIVA MOST VIBRANT.THERE IS NO PRE-EXISTING GOD CALLED SHIVA.<br /><br />LORD VISHNU REPRESENTS HUMAN STATE OF MIND AFTER HUMAN MIND WENT CORRUPT,THERE IS NO pre-existing GOD CALLED VISHNU.<br /><br />SAME IS WITH JESUS CHRIST AND ALLAH,THEY REPRESENT THE HUMAN STATE OF MIND FROM THAT ERA.WE HAVE TO MEASURE HOW WISE THE PEOPLE OF THAT ERA ARE.<br /><br />SO ALL THESE GODS ARE LIE AND FAKE COZ THEY REALLY DON'T EXIST.RELIGION AND SCRIPTURES ARE FOR PEOPLE NOT TO DEGRADE FURTHER.ANYONE WHO FOLLOWS RELIGION AND SCRIPTURES IS DEGRADED HUMAN.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3062233828175782338.post-34906016950042038292013-04-03T23:08:37.677-04:002013-04-03T23:08:37.677-04:00Thanks Mahesh! Good analogy and great analysis. An...Thanks Mahesh! Good analogy and great analysis. Anyway, these complicated stories had been written by our ancestors according the prevalent social conditions and the understanding of the world and universe at that time. Giribalahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11481010044909052232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3062233828175782338.post-13173232751145454302013-04-03T05:03:40.134-04:002013-04-03T05:03:40.134-04:00In 80s and 90s there used to be lot of gang rivalr...In 80s and 90s there used to be lot of gang rivalry in Mumbai. Rival gang members used to kill each other etc. Now it is all silent, it does not mean that they are inactive. They realized war is loss for everyone so they mark their boundaries and function. I think over years God and Danavas have realized the same. While dividing the boundaries Gods must have got them lot of good areas which help them leave peacefully without doing any work. Where as Danavas must have been cheated and got some really bad areas to they continue to fight for their survival.<br /><br />Unfortunately most of the books are influenced by Gods and that way we also hate danavas since our birth. Just take example of Mahabharata, Pandavas messed up so many things, Udhisthir could not fight, Pandu was literally Pandu, Dhrutarashtra had 100 affairs but hid all of them in the name of Gandhari and poor her had to accept it (perhaps how would a blind man know with whom he is anyway, he must have 100s of servants ) ....Maheshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00706114401868979528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3062233828175782338.post-54903312549850651342013-04-02T09:43:17.474-04:002013-04-02T09:43:17.474-04:00Thanks Sammy! During my childhood, each neighborho...Thanks Sammy! During my childhood, each neighborhood had their own Holika dahan, and kids used to collect the burning material a month in advance. Although these days, it is not advisable to burn such pyres for environmental reasonsGiribalahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11481010044909052232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3062233828175782338.post-82987354667817563332013-03-30T02:19:42.419-04:002013-03-30T02:19:42.419-04:00I just recently came across the fascinating story ...I just recently came across the fascinating story of Holika and Prahlada, courtesy mom. She knows the Puranas and the Indian epics really well.<br />Great blog post though, lots of people will now know about the significance of holi. The burning of effigies of Holika, in fact, is a tradition in rural Bengal. We call it 'chachor' where children gather dried twigs and leaves and build a huge bonfire on Holi eve. Sometimes they utilize the fire to broil vegetables and devour them later on after the fire has died down. I remember being a part of such a ritual once in my childhood. It was insane fun. :DSamadritahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06559209065320147413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3062233828175782338.post-37330017947277706652013-03-29T11:51:55.367-04:002013-03-29T11:51:55.367-04:00Thanks Indu ji! :-)Thanks Indu ji! :-)Giribalahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11481010044909052232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3062233828175782338.post-42007309458149437452013-03-29T11:51:13.106-04:002013-03-29T11:51:13.106-04:00Not to forget that the Danavas, Daityas, and the N...Not to forget that the Danavas, Daityas, and the Nagas(serpents) are stepbrothers of the Devas....Giribalahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11481010044909052232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3062233828175782338.post-71986513825222042462013-03-28T22:37:03.399-04:002013-03-28T22:37:03.399-04:00Oh Dear Lord! You lost me the moment you started e...Oh Dear Lord! You lost me the moment you started explaining the family tree. It seems the Gods and Goddesses had a lot of sex and produced more Gods and Goddesses. No wonder we have millions of them now. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3062233828175782338.post-62681047344920093972013-03-28T22:33:20.643-04:002013-03-28T22:33:20.643-04:00Learnt a lot from your post--your batting for Holi...Learnt a lot from your post--your batting for Holika makes sense!indu chhibberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17755152757229783585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3062233828175782338.post-33238936624855476472013-03-28T13:20:29.183-04:002013-03-28T13:20:29.183-04:00Thanks Suresh! Even then this sounds like a scare ...Thanks Suresh! Even then this sounds like a scare tactic-- if you worship Vishnu you'll be saved, otherwise you're doomed :-)Giribalahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11481010044909052232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3062233828175782338.post-71287969620430886652013-03-28T13:13:09.437-04:002013-03-28T13:13:09.437-04:00Thanks Alka! This was news to me as well. Now I un...Thanks Alka! This was news to me as well. Now I understand the reason behind the growing number of asuras in the world :OGiribalahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11481010044909052232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3062233828175782338.post-35254955720181405562013-03-28T12:59:37.393-04:002013-03-28T12:59:37.393-04:00I think, maybe, Holika went a shade overboard in a...I think, maybe, Holika went a shade overboard in agreeing that burning alive was the appropriate disciplinary action to take against her nephew merely because he liked his uncle better than his dad :)C Sureshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07447144019185253116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3062233828175782338.post-86173283614435649482013-03-28T12:45:29.984-04:002013-03-28T12:45:29.984-04:00That's full of information. Not have fun betwe...That's full of information. Not have fun between the sheets at odd hours is most important. Lol.Alka Gurhahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12050387590729571321noreply@blogger.com